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you add catholic false claims. such as the apostles were never told to replace Judas.
- Apparently, you speak for me!
- Fortunately, I speak for myself!
- And anyone can see you speak for yourself!
- And it has nothing to do with what I say!
- But it is easy to understand!
- You will probably never understand the two different worlds!
- ONE FROM JERUSALEM!
- ONE FROM ASIA!
- TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS WHICH WERE RADICALLY DIFFERENT!
- WITH TWO DIFFERENT MISSIONS!
- IT WAS TO BE SO AND IT WILL KEEP BEING SO!
- AN OLD WORLD AND A NEW WORLD!
 
Paul works as a tent weaver

Barely arrived in the city, Paul went to Jason, his relative, who - hospitality obliged - opened his house to him. Learning that the traveler was destitute, moved by his injuries, he provided him with the means to practice his trade as a tent weaver. Jason seems to have run a small weaving workshop with fairly large premises. Paul and his two companions found a warm welcome there, shelter, bread and work. Since they were counting on a fairly long stay, Paul and his companions did not want to be a burden on their host. In Thessaloniki, the Jewish community had built a sumptuous synagogue, equipped by merchants and bankers. It was the meeting place for all the Jews of Macedonia. In this synagogue Paul found an audience open to religious questions. There he also met proselytes and many “God-fearers”, recruited especially from the female community. Three Sabbaths in a row, Paul spoke in the synagogue. The scriptures provided him with a common theme and set of principles that he used to bring them to faith in Jesus Christ. Using the texts of Isaiah, Paul explained that the Messiah must suffer, die and rise from the dead

Everywhere he went, Paul invited his listeners to the in-depth study of Scripture. For him it was the fountain of youth of Christianity. The Scriptures will always have a central place in Paul's preaching and the Thessalonians responded to his call by welcoming the Word “with eagerness and not as a human word” (1 Thessalonians 1, 6; 2, 13). In Thessalonica, Paul and Silas made many conversions. They both stayed for some time in Jason's house. But, once again, as had happened elsewhere, the success of Paul's teaching aroused the fury of the Jews who threatened the two preachers with death. They accused them before the city magistrates: “these people who have stirred up the whole world are now here. These individuals act against the emperor's edicts; They claim that there is another king, Jesus.” (Acts 17, 6-7) Paul's adversaries recruited “rascals who roamed the streets” (Acts 17:5) to organize a riot and sow disorder in the city. They invaded Jason's house shouting that they wanted to bring Paul and Silas to justice. Fortunately, both were absent that day. They then dragged Jason with a few other Christians before the city magistrates. Paul avoided another period of imprisonment because his host agreed to provide a large sum of money as security. Since Jason was known to be a peaceful and honest citizen, he was asked to send away these troublemaking strangers as soon as possible. That same night, Paul made an appointment with the leaders of the community and left them with his instructions. He thought his absence would be short-lived. It was otherwise. For more than eight years, he would not see his friends from Thessalonica again. The Christian community organized the nighttime departure of the two men for Berea, a small town 70 km to the west. They deviated from the Egnatian Way, to take a secondary road.

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30. Thessaloniki

Mont Olympe, résidence des dieux


Mount Olympus, the highest peak in Greece, near Thessaloniki. The Greeks of Paul's time believed that Zeus and the other gods lived there, in palaces camouflaged from mortal eyes by a thick and permanent layer of clouds.

Port e Thesaloniki



Even today, Thessaloniki is a major port on the Aegean Sea.

Paul and his two companions, Silas and Timothy, leave the city of Philippi and head south through Amphipolis, one of the oldest cities in Greece, but they do not stop there. After a journey of 150 km, along the Egnatian Way, they arrive in Thessalonica (Acts 17, 1). Travelers see the snow-capped peaks of Mount Olympus (2,985 meters), the holy mountain of the gods. It is up there that Zeus, “the shaper of the clouds”, sat enthroned. The Greek looked at this mountain with a fear similar to that of the Israelite facing Mount Sinai. Cassander, king of Macedon, founded Thessalonica in 315 BC. and named it after his wife Thessaloniki, the sister of Alexander the Great. The Romans seized it in 68 BC. Enlarged and became the capital of Macedonia, it obtained, in 42 BC, the status of a free city. It had a large port on the Aegean Sea and provided for the needs of a large part of the surrounding countries. By creating the Egnatian Way, which extended the Appian Way to Byzantium, the Romans made Thessalonica an essential stopover. The city was connected to Rome and Asia. Four meters below the current road, the old Roman road was exposed. Politically, power was in the hands of a proconsul, governing on behalf of the Roman Senate. Thessaloniki had a cosmopolitan population. There was a mixture of the nations of the world: Macedonians, Greeks, Asians, Syrians, Egyptians, Jews, Roman employees and legionnaires. If the Gospel succeeds in gaining a foothold in Thessalonica, Paul reasoned, it will spread throughout the entire Mediterranean basin. And that's what happened. After only two years, Paul wrote from Corinth to the Thessalonians: “For from among you the word of the Lord has sounded, and not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but your faith in God has spread everywhere. .” (1 Thessalonians 1, 8).

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Paul works as a tent weaver

Barely arrived in the city, Paul went to Jason, his relative, who - hospitality obliged - opened his house to him. Learning that the traveler was destitute, moved by his injuries, he provided him with the means to practice his trade as a tent weaver. Jason seems to have run a small weaving workshop with fairly large premises. Paul and his two companions found a warm welcome there, shelter, bread and work. Since they were counting on a fairly long stay, Paul and his companions did not want to be a burden on their host. “You remember, brothers, our labors and fatigues: night and day, we worked, so as not to be a burden to any of you, while we proclaimed the Gospel of God!” (1 Thessalonians 2, 9).

Paul prêchant dans la synagogue


Paul speaks in the synagogue

In Thessaloniki, the Jewish community had built a sumptuous synagogue, equipped by merchants and bankers. It was the meeting place for all the Jews of Macedonia. In this synagogue Paul found an audience open to religious questions. There he also met proselytes and many “God-fearers”, recruited especially from the female community. Three Sabbaths in a row, Paul spoke in the synagogue. The scriptures provided him with a common theme and set of principles that he used to bring them to faith in Jesus Christ. Using the texts of Isaiah, Paul explained that the Messiah must suffer, die and rise from the dead: “A man of sorrows and familiar with suffering, like one before whom one veils his face... He was pierced because of our crimes, crushed because of our faults. The punishment that gives us peace is upon him, and in his wounds we find healing... Mistreated, he humiliated himself, he did not open his mouth, like the lamb that allows itself to be led to the slaughter, like a mute sheep before the shearers.” (Isaiah 53, 3-7) The Messiah, he said, is this Jesus whom I announce to you. Paul explained that the Messiah awaited by the Jews, the victorious King, was only a dream. The true Messiah wore a crown of thorns, was crucified, and died for love of us. What a scandal! Most Jews could not accept a crucified Messiah! It will be especially among the pagans that Paul will encounter the most open hearts. As had happened elsewhere, the success of Paul's teaching aroused the fury of the Jews who threatened the two preachers with death. Everywhere he went, Paul invited his listeners to the in-depth study of Scripture. For him it was the fountain of youth of Christianity. The Scriptures will always have a central place in Paul's preaching and the Thessalonians responded to his call by welcoming the Word “with eagerness and not as a human word” (1 Thessalonians 1, 6; 2, 13). In Thessalonica, Paul and Silas made many conversions. They both stayed for some time in Jason's house. But, once again, as had happened elsewhere, the success of Paul's teaching aroused the fury of the Jews who threatened the two preachers with death. They accused them before the city magistrates: “these people who have stirred up the whole world are now here. These individuals act against the emperor's edicts; They claim that there is another king, Jesus.” (Acts 17, 6-7) Paul's adversaries recruited “rascals who roamed the streets” (Acts 17:5) to organize a riot and sow disorder in the city. They invaded Jason's house shouting that they wanted to bring Paul and Silas to justice. Fortunately, both were absent that day. They then dragged Jason with a few other Christians before the city magistrates. Paul avoided another period of imprisonment because his host agreed to provide a large sum of money as security. Since Jason was known to be a peaceful and honest citizen, he was asked to send away these troublemaking strangers as soon as possible. That same night, Paul made an appointment with the leaders of the community and left them with his instructions. He thought his absence would be short-lived. It was otherwise. For more than eight years, he would not see his friends from Thessalonica again. The Christian community organized the nighttime departure of the two men for Berea, a small town 70 km to the west. They deviated from the Egnatian Way, to take a secondary road.
 
Israel (/ˈɪzri.əl, -reɪ-/; Hebrew: יִשְׂרָאֵל Yīsrāʾēl [jisʁaˈʔel]; Arabic: إِسْرَائِيل ʾIsrāʾīl), officially the State of Israel (מְדִינַת יִשְׂרָאֵל Medīnat Yīsrāʾēl [mediˈnat jisʁaˈʔel]; دَوْلَة إِسْرَائِيل Dawlat Isrāʾīl), is a country in West Asia.
- Yes, you have no idea about historical context!
- That's these pages about Paul's life seem to be written in a forign language you don't understand!
- That's also why you don't understand the Bible!
- You are completely away from Biblical context!

Remember:

  • If you think like today’s people, you will never understand the Bible!
  • They used to write differently!
  • They used to speak differently!
  • They used to think differently!
  • They used to act differently!
 
Paul and his companions remained in Berea long enough to bring together a new Christian community. There was a synagogue and a Jewish colony in this small town and they were well received. The people listened eagerly to Paul's words. After a while, when the Israelites in Thessalonica learned that Paul had also converted many people in Berea, they went to that city and caused trouble among the inhabitants. However, the agitators sent to harm Paul appear to have failed in their endeavor. Despite everything, they aroused a certain unease. The Christians wanted to prevent the tumult, by inviting Paul to get to safety by avoiding the Jews who were attacking him. He then decided to go to Athens by sea, while Silas and Timothy would remain for a while longer in Berea to complete the pastoral work so well begun. “The Jews of Thessalonica... came there again to sow agitation and disorder among the crowd. So the brothers immediately sent Paul away towards the sea; As for Silas and Timothy, they remained there.” (Acts 17, 13-15)

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31. Berea

Carte 2e voyage, Macédoine-Achaie


The Churches of Macedonia are among the most fruitful of those founded by Paul

Berea is a small town built on the slope of Mount Vermion. It dominates a plain crossed by two rivers. Cicero calls it an “oppium devium,” an off-road place. Not far from there stood the gigantic palace of the kings of Macedonia. In 1977, the tomb of Philip II, father of Alexander the Great, was found there. It contained the bones of a small man, six feet tall, the same one who had been stabbed in the summer of 336 BC., his bodyguard Pausanias. A golden casket contained his crown made of oak leaves and golden acorns, his purple cloak, his shield, his swords and his breastplate. Paul and his companions remained in Berea long enough to bring together a new Christian community. There was a synagogue and a Jewish colony in this small town and they were well received. The people listened eagerly to Paul's words.

les Béréens examinaient lles Écritures pour voir si tout était exact


“They received the Word with the greatest eagerness.

Every day they examined the Scriptures to see if everything was correct.” It was especially people with significant financial means who rallied to Christianity in Berea, proof that the early Church did not recruit only proletarians, as has often been claimed. Berea also gave the Apostle a precious collaborator, Sopater, who we will find later among Paul's traveling companions: “They received the Word with the greatest eagerness. Every day they examined the scriptures to see if everything was correct. Many of them embraced the faith, as did, among the Greeks, ladies of quality and a good number of men.” (Acts 17, 11-12) After a while, when the Israelites in Thessalonica learned that Paul had also converted many people in Berea, they went to that city and caused trouble among the inhabitants. However, the agitators sent to harm Paul appear to have failed in their endeavor. Despite everything, they aroused a certain unease. The Christians wanted to prevent the tumult, by inviting Paul to get to safety by avoiding the Jews who were attacking him. He then decided to go to Athens by sea, while Silas and Timothy would remain for a while longer in Berea to complete the pastoral work so well begun. “The Jews of Thessalonica... came there again to sow agitation and disorder among the crowd. Then the brothers immediately sent Paul away towards the sea; As for Silas and Timothy, they remained there.” (Acts 17, 13-15) Paul twice tried to return to Berea and Thessalonica but this was not possible because of the threats uttered by the Jewish fanatics: “We wanted to come to you several times, but Satan prevented us.” (1 Thessalonians 2:18) Either in Berea or on the way to Athens, it is believed that Paul was taken by an excessive fever, probably due to malaria. This would explain why those who were assigned to accompany him to the port did not return home, but stayed with him and “took him to Athens”. Returning to Athens, Paul took leave of the brothers of Berea and asked that Silas and Timothy be sent to him: “Tell Silas and Timothy to join me as soon as possible.” He probably felt very unwell and felt the need to be supported and comforted. The end of autumn 49 was approaching. It took approximately 18 months to establish Christian communities in Thessaloniki and Berea which will continue to exist. These Churches of Macedonia were undoubtedly among the most fruitful and most dynamic of those founded by Paul.
 
Walking through the streets of Thessaloniki you come across, not only many Greek Orthodox churches, but monasteries as well,

again, catholicism

Berea (the name of which means "heavy" or "weighty") was a city that in Biblical times was in the Roman province of Macedonia. It was located on the site of the current city of Verria, which is in modern-day northern Greece.

Greek orthodox

the ac will come from Greece.

I understand the biblical context and how catholicism gas twisted it, romanized it. the greatest lies begin with a grain of truth,
 
Walking through the streets of Thessaloniki you come across, not only many Greek Orthodox churches, but monasteries as well,

again, catholicism

Berea (the name of which means "heavy" or "weighty") was a city that in Biblical times was in the Roman province of Macedonia. It was located on the site of the current city of Verria, which is in modern-day northern Greece.

Greek orthodox

the ac will come from Greece.

I understand the biblical context and how catholicism gas twisted it, romanized it. the greatest lies begin with a grain of truth,
- it is a summary of human religion!
 
Paul of Tarsus was a cultured man who knew how to appreciate the beauties of Greece. He knew how to value everything that enhanced human dignity. The Acropolis dominated the city, with the Parthenon which housed the 12 meter high gold and ivory statue of Athena, chiseled by Phidias. The idea of God was, among the Greeks, infinitely superior to that of the Egyptians and other religions, who did not hesitate to represent their gods in the image of sacred animals, or even in hybrid forms, animal and human at a time. For the Greeks, it is the human being who, through his harmonious form, is the supreme revelation of God. Paul alluded in his speech at the Areopagus to this search for God through the forms of art, as well as to the experience of God lived by the poets. In this way, he did justice to the Greek spirit.

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32. Athens

Carte du 2e voyage - de Bérée à Athènes


Paul goes to Athens by boat, accompanied by friends from Berea
After a sea voyage, Paul found himself in Athens for the first time. Although four centuries had passed since its heyday in the time of Pericles, the city was still the intellectual capital of the Empire. It was a famous city, but Greece as such no longer existed. The capture of Corinth by the Romans in 146 BC and Roman domination throughout the country had sounded the death knell for ancient Greece. In March 86 BC., Sylla had seized Athens, delivering it to massacres and pillaging. The time of Pericles and Alexander the Great was long gone. This country which marked the history of the world had fallen to the rank of a simple Roman province. We must read the bitter pages of renowned travelers like Cicero, Strabo and Pausanias on Greece subject to Rome: “the appearance of freedom officially granted by Rome is only a mask. We are shown countryside that have become desert, ruined cities, abandoned temples, the bases of stolen statues, the Peloponnese struck to death, the cities of Thebes and Argos reduced to the rank of simple villages. What a decline! Only Corinth seems spared.” Athens owed its salvation to the glory of its ancestors, while Corinth was able to recover from its ruins, thanks to the goodwill of Julius Caesar. Athens and all of Greece had become an art museum for the tourists of the time. Luke adds: “All the Athenians and the foreigners who resided among them had no other pastime than telling or listening to the latest news.” (Acts 17, 21)

Acropole d'Athènes


The Acropolis of Athens is a high rocky plateau in the center of Athens. Several remarkable monuments were built there, including four temples, a theater, etc.

In its very decadence, Athens exerted such an attraction on the conquerors that no Roman would have considered themselves cultured if they had not studied there. It was fashionable for the nobility of Rome to have lived for a certain time in Athens. Men like Cicero, Ovid, Horace and Virgil had sought their inspiration there. Statesmen and politicians like Caesar, Mark Antony, Pompey and Augustus had paid tribute to its beauty. Approaching the city by sea, Paul was able to admire the immense mountain range of the Acropolis. He could see the fields of Marathon in the distance. On one elevation, the temples of Athena, patroness of the country, and Poseidon, god of the sea, greeted foreigners. Arriving in the gulf at the port of Piraeus, crowded with a multitude of boats, the brothers of Berea did not want to let Paul travel alone the fifteen kilometers which separated the port from the city of Athens. They accompanied him to the city center. Satisfied to see him safe, they returned to Berea.

Parthénon d'Athènes


Symbol par excellence of Greek culture and dominating the Acropolis of Athens, the Parthenon was dedicated to the goddess Athena.

Statue de la déesse Athéna, dans le Parthénon



The statue of Athena, protector of the city and goddess of war and wisdom, was enthroned at the Parthenon. Paul of Tarsus was a cultured man who knew how to appreciate the beauties of Greece. He knew how to value everything that enhanced human dignity. The Acropolis dominated the city, with the Parthenon which housed the 12 meter high gold and ivory statue of Athena, chiseled by Phidias. The idea of God was, among the Greeks, infinitely superior to that of the Egyptians and other religions, who did not hesitate to represent their gods in the image of sacred animals, or even in hybrid forms, animal and human at a time. For the Greeks, it is the human being who, through his harmonious form, is the supreme revelation of God. Paul alluded in his speech at the Areopagus to this search for God through the forms of art, as well as to the experience of God lived by the poets. In this way, he did justice to the Greek spirit. The Greeks had great respect for human beings. In the city of Athens, there existed “a statue of Compassion” which dates from the time when the Greeks were still a nation of free men and women who promoted the greatness and beauty of the human species. We find this beauty and grandeur in all his works of art. In Paul's time, Athens had not yet introduced bloody gladiatorial combats. In the second century BC., some had wanted to follow the example of Corinth, by introducing gladiator fights in the amphitheater. The philosopher Demonax then stood up and cried: “But first overthrow the altar of compassion.” These cruel and bloody struggles, for the sole pleasure of the spectators, did not fit with the love and respect that the Greeks had for human beings. The city of Athens, where Paul had just arrived, even stripped of any political role, retained the prestige of its past and its culture.
 
but before you linked it to biblical history. now your changing your tune.
- Not at all!
- You mix everything!
- You should have a look again from the start!
- I have always spoken about corruption of human religion!
- i will always speak about religious corruption!
 
yet you cite rcc sources as accurate and biblical,
- Absolutely not!
- I have said there are mistakes!
- I have also said I was looking for the historical context about Paul's life!
- After publishing these pages, I will publish other pages from other sources!
- Then it will be possible to compare!
- When you want to learn, you do what you have to do!
- If you don't want to learn, you don't do anything!
- Once again you are the only one to say that these sources are accurate and biblical!
- I am just looking for information from different sources then I will compare them!
 
also non rcc sources on Mathias, including his activities. there are none.
- I only cited Acts chapter one!
- I only spoke about Mathias because Acts speaks about him!
- But if I am not wrong, the title of the thread is looking for Paul not for Mathias!
 
Jesus picked all the apostles, never Mathias. he picked Paul and no others, even when the 12 died, contrary to the rcc.
 
Jesus picked all the apostles, never Mathias. he picked Paul and no others, even when the 12 died, contrary to the rcc.
- When we read Acts chapter one, the apostles decided to replace Judas because it was a necessity for them!
- You may like it or not!
- But they did according to what was best for them!

Acts 1:21

Therefore
οὖν (oun)
Conjunction
Strong's 3767: Therefore, then. Apparently a primary word; certainly, or accordingly.

it is necessary [to select]
Δεῖ (Dei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1163: Third person singular active present of deo; also deon deh-on'; neuter active participle of the same; both used impersonally; it is Necessary.

one of the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

men
ἀνδρῶν (andrōn)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 435: A male human being; a man, husband. A primary word; a man.

who have accompanied
συνελθόντων (synelthontōn)
Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 4905: From sun and erchomai; to convene, depart in company with, associate with, or, cohabit.

us
ἡμῖν (hēmin)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Dative 1st Person Plural
Strong's 1473: I, the first-person pronoun. A primary pronoun of the first person I.

[the] whole
παντὶ (panti)
Adjective - Dative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3956: All, the whole, every kind of. Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole.

time
χρόνῳ (chronō)
Noun - Dative Masculine Singular
Strong's 5550: A space of time or interval; by extension, an individual opportunity; by implication, delay.

the
ὁ (ho)
Article - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

Lord
Κύριος (Kyrios)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2962: Lord, master, sir; the Lord. From kuros; supreme in authority, i.e. controller; by implication, Master.

Jesus
Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 2424: Of Hebrew origin; Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other Israelites.

went in
εἰσῆλθεν (eisēlthen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1525: To go in, come in, enter. From eis and erchomai; to enter.

and
καὶ (kai)
Conjunction
Strong's 2532: And, even, also, namely.

out
ἐξῆλθεν (exēlthen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1831: To go out, come out. From ek and erchomai; to issue.

among
ἐφ’ (eph’)
Preposition
Strong's 1909: On, to, against, on the basis of, at.

us,
ἡμᾶς (hēmas)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Accusative 1st Person Plural
Strong's 1473: I, the first-person pronoun. A primary pronoun of the first person I.
 
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