At the End of Time, after the Millennial Kingdom and Short Time of Satan, when the current heavens and earth are destroyed, there is the White Throne Judgement.
The problem is, as this states, it is eternal torment, so they will never be saved. Why those who make this decision the reject Christ will not change is stunning, but true to the ego of unredeemed human nature.
Again, eternal torment means eternal. If one ceases to exist, they are not tormented, happy or anything else. They simply do not exist to experience or feel anything.
To put the issue beyond any kind of literal dispute, here is meaning of torment:
Well, if so, they they cannot appeal to the Bible on any subject since it is corrupted. Nor have any offered the slightest proof of such corruption.
Appealing to such human created books as the Vulgate and New World Translation proves nothing. We recognize they are not the true Bible. We have thousands manuscripts predating both back into the Old Testament times that validate translations like the NIV and NASB used the manuscripts for translation. Christ quoted the Old Testament and never said it was corrupted.
God said he would not judge the saints, but reward them. Here we see nothing but judgement of the damned.
This also denies annihilation in Hell. It states Hell has dead in it to be given up. These are the spirits of the lost.
It also says the sea gave up its dead. Those are bodies. Thus another confirmation the damned are resurrected, but not glorified.
Even further, they are all thrown into the Lake. Satan, the AC, the False Prophet, the Fallen Angels and the human damned are all there for Eternity.
God is indeed loving, not love, as if love is a person. Soldiers, judges, police, those who do acts of self defense, etc can be very loving. But love does not deny justice. They are not mutually exclusive terms.
No more choices, decisions made and eternity set. The lost will not be with the saints on the New Earth in the New Jerusalem in Eternity to come.
There are those who reject the idea of eternal punishment. Universal Salvation says all will eventually repent and enter heaven. Those who believe in Conditional Immortality say the fires will consume them and they will be annihilated, punished forever with non existence.Revelation 20
7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The problem is, as this states, it is eternal torment, so they will never be saved. Why those who make this decision the reject Christ will not change is stunning, but true to the ego of unredeemed human nature.
Again, eternal torment means eternal. If one ceases to exist, they are not tormented, happy or anything else. They simply do not exist to experience or feel anything.
To put the issue beyond any kind of literal dispute, here is meaning of torment:
Finally, some even try to another meaning because they believe the Bible has been corrupted.Strong's Number: 928
Original WordWord Origin
basanivzwfrom (931)
Transliterated WordTDNT Entry
Basanizo1:561,96
Phonetic SpellingParts of Speech
bas-an-id'-zo Verb
Definition
- to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the colour of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal
- to question by applying torture
- to torture
- to vex with grievous pains (of body or mind), to torment
- to be harassed, distressed
- of those who at sea are struggling with a head wind
Well, if so, they they cannot appeal to the Bible on any subject since it is corrupted. Nor have any offered the slightest proof of such corruption.
Appealing to such human created books as the Vulgate and New World Translation proves nothing. We recognize they are not the true Bible. We have thousands manuscripts predating both back into the Old Testament times that validate translations like the NIV and NASB used the manuscripts for translation. Christ quoted the Old Testament and never said it was corrupted.
This is the Second Resurrection. Read earlier in Revelation to see the First. The First is of the saints and lasts from the Rapture until the End of Time.The Judgment of the Dead
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
God said he would not judge the saints, but reward them. Here we see nothing but judgement of the damned.
This also denies annihilation in Hell. It states Hell has dead in it to be given up. These are the spirits of the lost.
It also says the sea gave up its dead. Those are bodies. Thus another confirmation the damned are resurrected, but not glorified.
Even further, they are all thrown into the Lake. Satan, the AC, the False Prophet, the Fallen Angels and the human damned are all there for Eternity.
God is indeed loving, not love, as if love is a person. Soldiers, judges, police, those who do acts of self defense, etc can be very loving. But love does not deny justice. They are not mutually exclusive terms.
No more choices, decisions made and eternity set. The lost will not be with the saints on the New Earth in the New Jerusalem in Eternity to come.
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