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Adamic Six Days

CoreIssue

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The first topic covered was the Pre-Adamic Creation. Pre-Adamic Destruction followed. Now, we move on what most call the Six Days of Creation, which is an inaccurate label, as covered in the Pre-Adamic topic.

At the dawn of the first of the six days we find Creation in this state:
Genesis 1:2
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Moving on in Genesis 1 the Six Days begain:

DAY ONE
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
First notice time is in the Hebrew frame here. A day begins at sundown and ends at sundown. It is saying there is the night time, followed by the daytime, which together is a single day.

Also note it does not say God created light here. You will not see the word 'create' used again. The Pre-Adamic topic lays out the difference in meanings between 'create' and 'made.' The Pre-Adamic Destruction topic also shows the earth was cloaked in darkness, thus blocking it from shining on the earth.

Here God said let the light shine down again. But instead of all light all the time, now he let the light in part of a day and blocked it the rest of the day.

The meaing of 'let' proves this as fact:
et 1 (l
t)
v. let, let·ting, lets
v.tr.
1. To give permission or opportunity to; allow: I let them borrow the car. The inheritance let us finally buy a house. See Usage Note at leave1.
2. To cause to; make: Let the news be known.
a. Used as an auxiliary in the imperative to express a command, request, or proposal: Let's finish the job! Let x equal y.​
b. Used as an auxiliary in the imperative to express a warning or threat: Just let her try!
4. To permit to enter, proceed, or depart: let the dog in.
5. To release from or as if from confinement: let the air out of the balloon; let out a yelp.
6. To rent or lease: let rooms.
7. To award, especially after bids have been submitted: let the construction job to a new firm.
v.intr.
1. To become rented or leased.
2. To be or become assigned, as to a contractor.
To 'let' is to 'allow,' not 'create.' Meaning 4. is right to the point here. Light was allowed entry.

DAY TWO
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
The earth was without shape, chaotic, etc. When we read this it really drives the point home. It was such a disaster even what we call the sky, today, could not be distinguished from the everything below it. Hard if not impossible to imagine.

Was it dense fog, ice or ice crystals?

God didn't remove all the water from the 'sky.' As we know, the air holds a lot of water, but nothing like what was seen here.

So God revealed/made the sky as a dividing container to separate the waters of the sky from the waters of the earth :
Strong's Number: 7549
Original WordWord Origin
[yqrfrom (07554)
Transliterated WordTDNT Entry
Raqiya`TWOT - 2217a
Phonetic SpellingParts of Speech
raw-kee'-ah Noun Masculine
Definition

  1. extended surface (solid), expanse, firmament
    1. expanse (flat as base, support)
    2. firmament (of vault of heaven supporting waters above)
      1. considered by Hebrews as solid and supporting 'waters' above
It gets a bit confusing here talking about the 'vault,' also called the heavens or heaven.

There are three heavens. The first is the sky, the second outer space and the third the dwelling place of God. Context determines which usage is meant in the verse.

The earth was still in chaos, but now some order was restored.
DAY THREE
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
God gathered the water together into oceans and seas.

As we know, there are oceans underneath the earth. Scientist have discovered them and the Bible talks about the waters coming out of the earth at the time of Noah's Flood.

During the Pre-Adamic Destruction we know the earth's crust was shattered and the water rose and covered the land.

After the eath is destroyed at the end of the Millennial Kingdon, and the New Earth is formed, we again see there are no oceans, no sun, stars or darkness. The earth is returned to the state of Genesis 1:1.

On Day Three the shattered earth was pulled together and the waters were either put back under the earth's crust or gathered into the vast areas of destruction to form seas and oceans. That lowered the water levels and the dry land reappeared.


Note it does not say 'create' and it says good, not perfection. There was sin in the world from Satan's rebellion, so everything is tainted with death and decay.

Referring to the Tower of Babel, all the land was one massive continent, not the continents of today. Scientists call that mass 'Gaia.'
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
Again the interesting point it does not say God created life, but 'let' and 'made' (i.e. verse 25) it exist. In Genesis 2 it says God 'caused' plants to grow.
Also, it was plant life, not animal.

DAY FOUR
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 t
it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
Nowhere does God ever say he created light. There has always been light. He is light.

It does say God made darkness, meaning the absence of light. We see it happen in Genesis 1:2.

Here God takes it a step further. Instead of light just being there with darkness coming and going, now he gave them very distinct separations. He made the sun, moon and stars, which are distanct suns. He gave them the purposes of giving light, signs of the seasons, navigation, etc.

This is a good place to point out God never says he made planets during the Six Days. They already existed.

We can go to other parts of the Bible, such as Jude, where it talks about the sanctuaries, abodes, etc of angels. I believe the planets of the Universe are those places.

The Bible does talk about angels in Heaven and the New Jerusalem, but it says they come and go. It also says on the New Earth there are kingdoms outside the gates of the City.

DAY FIVE
20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
God added fish and birds to the earth.

This rejects evolution. It says each reproduces its own kind. No one kind becoming another kind. It also has birds existing before land animals. Yet, evolution says birds came from land animals.

DAY SIX
24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
Land life was added. Interestingly God deliberately made some to be livestock and didn't add them until the same day he made Adam.
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals
and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
Jumping to Genesis 2, there is more detail on the making of Man.
5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
There are several things to note here.

First, God himself made Man. He did not command the earth or anything else to form him.

Second, God used his own breath to put life into Adam. The meaning of 'breath' is crucial to understanding:
N@shamah
Strong's Number: 5397
Original WordWord Origin
hmXnfrom (05395)
Transliterated WordTDNT Ent
N@shamahTWOT - 1433a
Phonetic SpellingParts of Speech
nesh-aw-maw' Noun Feminine
Definition
  1. breath, spirit
    1. breath (of God)
    2. breath (of man)
    3. every breathing thing
    4. spirit (of man)
It does not mean the act of breathing air in and out. It means God shared his spiritual nature with Adam.

No, he did not share his Godly nature, but his eternal spiritual nature, him 'image.'. While his body, just as with grass, fish, birds and animals are made from, attached to and part of the earth, within his body God gave him an eternal spirit as well.

He also gave Adam the ability to reason and freewill.

At this point in time, though, he had not given him the ability to know good from evil. He was completely innocent.

Finally, for the first time, you see the phrase 'living being.' It was not used prior during the Six Days and was not used until God breathed life into him.

Knowing what 'being' means is important:
Nephesh
Strong's Number: 5315
Original WordWord Origin
Xpnfrom (05314)
Transliterated WordTDNT Entry
NepheshTWOT - 1395a
Phonetic SpellingParts of Speech
neh'-fesh Noun Feminine
Definition
  1. soul, self, life, creature, person, appetite, mind, living being, desire, emotion, passion
    1. that which breathes, the breathing substance or being, soul, the inner being of man
    2. living being
    3. living being (with life in the blood)
    4. the man himself, self, person or individual
    5. seat of the appetites
    6. seat of emotions and passions
    7. activity of mind
      1. dubious
    8. activity of the will
      1. dubious
    9. activity of the character
      1. dubious
Again the unique reference to soul, mind, will, etc that sets us apart from animal, etc.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
It is important to note that Man was not created eternal flesh. Like all other life God made he was temporal. Also God created Adam and Eve to reproduce.

SEVENTH DAY
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
The meaning of the word 'rested' is important:
Shabath
Strong's Number: 7673
Original WordWord Origin
tbXa primitive root
Transliterated WordTDNT Entry
ShabathTWOT - 2323, 2323c
Phonetic SpellingParts of Speech
shaw-bath' Verb
Definition
  1. to cease, desist, rest
    1. (Qal)
      1. to cease
      2. to rest, desist (from labour)
    2. (Niphal) to cease
    3. (Hiphil)
      1. to cause to cease, put an end to
      2. to exterminate, destroy
      3. to cause to desist from
      4. to remove
      5. to cause to fail
  2. (Qal) to keep or observe the sabbath[/QUOTE]
It means to stop the activity one is currently doing. It does not mean stop everything.

God was done with the Six Days, so he stopped and moved on to something else.


A lot of people have confused or wrong notions as to the condition and realities of the earth, including Adam and Even, during the Six Days and before the Fall.
 
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CTZonEdit

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How do we determine the length of a day being spoken of in this account? I have seen push back that the days before the sun and moon were made allows for long periods of days to have taken place here.
 

CoreIssue

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The first day was in Genesis 1: 2. A very long time existed before then because we see the initial creation of the earth, Pre-Adamic life, the War in Heaven (and the earth), destruction of the earth, etc.

Regardless of of when the sun and moon were formed, it states every day had a morning and an evening, a daytime and a night time, which was a day. That makes it pretty apparent that in some manner half the heavens was lit while half was dark.

Now, how do we figure out the length of the day? I think it is simple. Picture a gigantic ball of space, half lit and half dark with the earth in it. The earth rotates once every 24 hours, so it is lit half the time and dark half.

One rotation is a day, just as we measure a day today, per rotation.

That makes 6 days of creation of 24 hours each with an unknown length of time prior.
 

Blake Henry

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How do we determine the length of a day being spoken of in this account? I have seen push back that the days before the sun and moon were made allows for long periods of days to have taken place here.
How long a day is and how old the universe and earth are has long been debated. Distant star light has the universe billions of years old. I only know that we can rely on the words of someone that was there.

Christ told us, “From the beginning of the creation God made them male and female” (Mark 10:6).

John tells us, In the beginning was the Word . . . and . . . all things were made by him” (John 1:1-3).

We can be certain that Adam and Eve were created at the beginning of creation, not after the earth had already existed for 4.6 billion years.
 

CoreIssue

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It actually does not say "From."
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female."

That is an undefined term as regarding when exactly.

We are also told, in such as Romans 8, that God has know us "from" and "in" the very beginning.

We know that Heaven, Earth, space, etc were already created before Adam and even were formed, not created, from the earth itself.

We know they were not formed on the first day of the Six Days per Genesis.

The word "created" is not used anywhere in the Six Days. It is used prior to only.

As for the Word being there, of course the Second Person of the Trinity was there, but not Jesus.

Jesus is the human body God indwelt, not God himself. Fully God in spirit, fully Man in flesh.

Indeed there was life on the earth before Adam and Eve. that is covered in the Pre-Adamic forum.

There is a very big difference between the meanings of the words create and form.
 

Blake Henry

New Member
It actually does not say "From."
6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female."

That is an undefined term as regarding when exactly.

We are also told, in such as Romans 8, that God has know us "from" and "in" the very beginning.

We know that Heaven, Earth, space, etc were already created before Adam and even were formed, not created, from the earth itself.

We know they were not formed on the first day of the Six Days per Genesis.

The word "created" is not used anywhere in the Six Days. It is used prior to only.

As for the Word being there, of course the Second Person of the Trinity was there, but not Jesus.

Jesus is the human body God indwelt, not God himself. Fully God in spirit, fully Man in flesh.

Indeed there was life on the earth before Adam and Eve. that is covered in the Pre-Adamic forum.

There is a very big difference between the meanings of the words create and form.
As an administrator of this site CoreIssue I feel confident that what I write here will be lost in the clouds. After a little research I found that you are a 'ruin-reconstruction theorists'. As a Gap theorists you may oppose evolution but believe in an ancient origin of the universe. I urge all that read this to get a full idea of what you believe by reading this article: https://answersingenesis.org/genesis/gap-theory/what-about-the-gap-and-ruin-reconstruction-theories/

It helped me to understand where you are coming from and why you believe what you do. You are one of many ruin-reconstruction theorists that have allowed the fallible theories of secular scientists to determine the meaning of Scripture and have, therefore, accepted the millions-of-years dates for the fossil record.
Some theorists also put the fall of Satan in this supposed period. But any rebellion of Satan during this gap of time contradicts God’s description of His completed creation on Day 6 as all being “very good” (Genesis 1:31).
All versions of the gap theory impose outside ideas on Scripture and thus open the door for further compromise that has caused many people to doubt the Bible and leave the church. I belive that you are well-meant but are misguided and twist Scripture.

I enjoyed
 

CoreIssue

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All I see is an accusation and declaration here. Not a single attempt to Biblically address a single point and proof I presented.

That is neither discussion or debate. It is preaching.
 

CTZonEdit

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But any rebellion of Satan during this gap of time contradicts God’s description of His completed creation on Day 6 as all being “very good” (Genesis 1:31).
All versions of the gap theory impose outside ideas on Scripture and thus open the door for further compromise that has caused many people to doubt the Bible and leave the church. I belive that you are well-meant but are misguided and twist Scripture.
I also see a lot of declarations without substance.

You also don't understand the Pre-Adamic creation account nor does your source from AIG. If either of you did then you would see that Pre-Adamic beliefs are not a "gap filler" and is nothing like the "gap theory" since we know what happened there are no "gaps" in the biblical record.

"Very good" is not perfect. God does not create anything in a "very good" state. He creates in perfection not "very good".

His perfection became "very good."

The question you should be thinking about is "Why?"
 

CoreIssue

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Agree, CTZ.

I also will note he replied in the Six Days forum about the initial creation. That is actually covered in the Pre-Adamic forum, which is also in the Commentaries Category..

The Pre-Adamic covers Genesis 1:1-2 plus a lot of other verses in the Bible on the topic. That information solidly disproves what he claimed and the Young Earth belief.

The Commentaries Category was written to give a time and event flow from Creation to the future eternity. That is important.
 
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