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Masks to keep out the bad while letting in the good for pennies

jdyson

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Masks to keep out the bad while letting in the good for pennies
I have discovered that you can breathe through a coffee pot filter
If you take four (4) coffee pot filters stacked one on the other, you can breathe threw them with no difficulty.
Coffee filters are inexpensive, and you can find them anywhere
There is one drawback. I need to find a way to hold the filters against my face.
Once done my mask problems will be over
What say you----
through away your filter mask on a daily basses and replace with a fresh one
what say you-- ?
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CTZonEdit

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“Masks are primarily intended to reduce the emission of virus-laden droplets.”

That’s nice, but COVID is an airborne contagion, a fact the CDC now readily acknowledges. Our commercially-available masks (the only ones with known control variables in production) filter exhale at 4 microns or greater. COVID measures 0.06-1.4 microns.

Masks make small particulates more airborne. How? By way of forced filtration. During a plosive force generating event (cough, sneeze, scream) within a mask, only particles larger than 4 microns are blocked/trapped. Masks cause an increase in atmospheric viral load, and the masks most people wear do not filter COVID on inhale. Instead of protecting others around the wearer, masks are only permitting particles smaller than that 4 micron threshold to escape.

You do the math – no wait, I’ll do it for you.

4-.06=3.94

4-1.4=2.6

The differences above describe the space left in the mask exhale openings when COVID particles (0.06-1.4 microns) are exhaled and then pressurized aloft during a plosive event.

Once a plosive force-generating event has caused this forced filtration, these tiny COVID particles do not respond predictably to gravity and can remain suspended aloft for extended periods. The proper PPE for COVID particulate types must account for Brownian Motion in order to effectively filter these fine particulates.
 

CTZonEdit

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The next claim is “Masks help reduce inhalation of these droplets by the wearer.”

Sure, which is why similarly-porous masks are used in surgery–for large particles. Again, surgical masks and cloth masks are expressly not for use with airborne particulates. The baseline minimum PPE for COVID-size particulates is an N95 or higher grade respirator plus eye protection.

Touting lesser-grade PPE as protection against COVID may be killing people by way of a false sense of security, and requiring the use of inappropriate PPE for a known contagion or particulate filtration designation is a massive OSHA violation.
 

CTZonEdit

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“Multi-layer cloth masks can… block up to 50-70% of these fine droplets” should be corrected to say: “We obviously can’t assert percent efficacy on unknown variables, but we know that 20-50% of fine particles get through cloth masks, and minimal viral load is required – especially if aerosolized – in order to transmit COVID.”

The entire section titled “Filtration for Personal Protection” is a laugh. It says there are no control variables with cloth masks, but the authors are still trying to use data “limited to observational and epidemiological studies” to pass utter hooey off as relevant public information.

They further cite a Thailand-based case study claiming 70% reduced risk due to mass masking, but in the U.S., we have 71% of new cases reporting as always masking and 14% of cases reporting that they mask most of the time.

Mass masking is not the answer for reopening society. This is: https://rationalground.com/a-rational-reopening-guide/
 

CTZonEdit

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Of course they do.

The masks are about control.

People that are afraid are told to wear a mask to control them.

People that don't want to wear a mask will be controlled by force.

If the mask mandates work then why is there continued spiking AFTER the mandates were put in place?
If the lockdowns worked then why are we locking down again? And again. And again.

The mask does nothing but delay the inevitable and cause more death due to the heinous lockdowns.

There is no scientific reason to lockdown or mask. Sweden proves this.
But you hear nothing about Sweden on any news media anywhere.
The media avoids it or suppresses it.

And when you speak out or offer data that is to the contrary, they suppress you.

Yay for Science!
 

CTZonEdit

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The Screwtape Letters: CS Lewis

Consider too what undesirable deaths occur in wartime. Men are killed in places where they knew they might be killed and to which they go, if they are at all of the Enemy's party, prepared. How much better for us if all humans died in costly nursing homes amid doctors who lie, nurses who lie, friends who lie, as we have trained them, promising life to the dying, encouraging the belief that sickness excuses every indulgence, and even, if our workers know their job, withholding all suggestion of a priest lest it should betray to the sick man his true condition! And how disastrous for us is the continual remembrance of death which war enforces. One of our best weapons, contented worldliness, is rendered useless. In wartime not even a human can believe that he is going to live forever.

I know that Scabtree and others have seen in wars a great opportunity for attacks on faith, but I think that view was exaggerated. The Enemy's human partisans have all been plainly told by Him that suffering is an essential part of what He calls Redemption; so that a faith which is destroyed by a war or a pestilence cannot really have been worth the trouble of destroying. I am speaking now of diffused suffering over a long period such as the war will produce. Of course, at the precise moment of terror, bereavement, or physical pain, you may catch your man when his reason is temporarily suspended. But even then, if he applies to Enemy headquarters, I have found that the post is nearly always defended,

Your affectionate uncle
SCREWTAPE
 

jdyson

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Coffee Filters: Home & Kitchen: Disposable ... - Amazon.ca
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Disposable Coffee Filters: Home & Kitchen - Amazon.ca
www.amazon.ca › Disposable-Coffee-Filters
Results 1 - 24 of 5000+ — Coffee filters are available in a range of different materials, including the ever-popular single-use paper filters. By contrast, metal or cloth ...

To my surprise, coffee filters are expensive.
100 filters for $7.99 or eight (8) cents a filter.

I’ve been buying coffee filters without even looking at the price. I wonder if I can wash the filter and reuse it-?
 

Willy

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Of course they do.

The masks are about control.

People that are afraid are told to wear a mask to control them.

People that don't want to wear a mask will be controlled by force.

If the mask mandates work then why is there continued spiking AFTER the mandates were put in place?
If the lockdowns worked then why are we locking down again? And again. And again.

The mask does nothing but delay the inevitable and cause more death due to the heinous lockdowns.

There is no scientific reason to lockdown or mask. Sweden proves this.
But you hear nothing about Sweden on any news media anywhere.
The media avoids it or suppresses it.

And when you speak out or offer data that is to the contrary, they suppress you.

Yay for Science!
Catch 22 … is it O.K. to wear masks to prevent the spread of contagions when there is no pandemic …?

Most effective masks for airborne Covid 19 should be of a N95 grade or better … using hepa filter vacuum bags give you an even better than N95 …

Agree control is an issue ...
 

CTZonEdit

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The very fact that there are multiple waves demonstrates that this is a natural phenomenon and will keep going until it burns through the population regardless of what we put on our faces. When the virus is burning out in a given area, nothing can be done to rekindle it. Conversely, when it is spreading, no amount of "non-pharmaceutical interventions" will arrest the spread.
 

CTZonEdit

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... we don't need any fancy study to project or predict what we see with our eyes. The virus is spreading universally more than ever (because of the cold weather and seasonality) despite months of extremely unprecedented draconian mask-wearing and other voodoo restrictions. Nowhere is this more evident than in the military, where there is more compliance than you will ever experience in a civilian population, which itself has been remarkably obsequious on the mask issue.

Last week, researchers for the Naval Medical Research Center in Maryland and Mount Sinai Hospital in New York published a study in the New England Journal of Medicine showing how mask-wearing and social isolation failed to stop the spread among U.S. Marine Corps recruits at Parris Island. The over 3,000 participants were divided into two study groups, and those who tested positive up front were removed from the group on day 1. By day 14, spread was actually greater among those in the supervised quarantine group (2.8%) than in the control group (1.7%).
 

CTZonEdit

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You hear this anywhere in the media? Nope.
You will get flagged and shut down on social media if you present this.

Its all about controlling the masses.
 

CTZonEdit

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The most effective strategy is herd immunity as Sweden followed thru with.
The virus will naturally burn it self out.

Preventing it will only delay the inevitable.
 

CTZonEdit

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Published today 11/18/2020.
This was conducted in the Spring, and they withheld it.

Hmm. Wonder why?

A massive Danish study on mask usage found no statistically significant difference in coronavirus infection rates between mask-wearers and non-mask-wearers. In fact, according to the data, mask usage may actually increase the likelihood of infection. https://acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
Conclusion:
The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
 

Willy

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Viral load vs severity of illness …

Cruise ship passengers who embarked from the coast of Argentina in mid-March were unaware that they were living in a COVID-19 hotspot for more than a week after the ship departed.

The reason why these passengers were oblivious? Because a majority of the cruise ship's cases were asymptomatic.

Researchers are now pointing to this cruise ship outbreak, in which all passengers were provided surgical masks, as evidence that universal masking may result in a higher proportion of asymptomatic COVID-19 cases. Other outbreaks of mostly asymptomatic cases where widespread masking was implemented, in places like jails and meatpacking plants, provide epidemiological data that masks could reduce viral inoculum -- and as a result, decrease the severity of illness.


Translation … if you are going to be infected with Covid-19, … you want to be infected with the minimal amount of the virus so your immune system does not get overwhelmed … hence a small number of small particle size virus from a masked individual is preferred over large chunks of spray from a non masked individual …
 

Willy

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Just to add that I agree that mask wearing should not be legislated to “control” the population at large …
 
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