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COVID-19 ... This is Important

Willy

Pro Poster
Don't link wearing masks with lock-down … if everyone wore masks and practiced a little common sense about social distancing there would be no need to lock anything down … everybody would be working and we would have the very best situation, other than having a vaccine, to reach herd immunity …

repeat … do not clump lock-down and mask wearing together …

also … the importance of viral load vs illness severity …

Cruise ship passengers who embarked from the coast of Argentina in mid-March were unaware that they were living in a COVID-19 hot spot for more than a week after the ship departed.

The reason why these passengers were oblivious? Because a majority of the cruise ship's cases were asymptomatic.

Researchers are now pointing to this cruise ship outbreak, in which all passengers were provided surgical masks, as evidence that universal masking may result in a higher proportion of asymptomatic COVID-19 cases. Other outbreaks of mostly asymptomatic cases where widespread masking was implemented, in places like jails and meatpacking plants, provide epidemiological data that masks could reduce viral inoculum -- and as a result, decrease the severity of illness.



Translation … if you are going to be infected with Covid-19, … you want to be infected with the minimal amount of the virus so your immune system does not get overwhelmed … hence a small number of small particle size virus from a masked individual is preferred over large chunks of spray from a non masked individual …



 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
We should have and need to deal with this like we have for centuries before the year 2020 where everyone lost their collective minds.

The gold standard WAS to isolate the SICK. Not the healthy.
You let the healthy build herd immunity and the virus burns itself out. This is exactly what happened in Sweden.

Locking down and telling people to wear something on their face and to social distance is nothing but cruel, inhumane, and leads to other severe consequences far worse than a virus.
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
Cases numbers increasing is meaningless.

Death rate is what matters and the number of people that have died from COVID alone is close to if not the same rate as those who died from influenza.
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
Willy what exactly are you afraid of? Death?

We are not of this world, it is passing away at an accelerated rate.
 

Willy

Pro Poster
Cases numbers increasing is meaningless.

Death rate is what matters and the number of people that have died from COVID alone is close to if not the same rate as those who died from influenza.
 

jdyson

Getting Started
Cases numbers increasing is meaningless.

Death rate is what matters and the number of people that have died from COVID alone is close to if not the same rate as those who died from influenza.
U.S. Hits Highest 1-Day Toll From Coronavirus With 3,054 Deaths in one day
December 9, 2020 9:05 PM ET
https://tinyurl.com/yxp8hnhu
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
Because of lags in gathering data on deaths is a reality often overlooked.

Deaths have to roll up from hospital or other healthcare providers –> up to the county –> up to the state -> to federal/country level reporting aggregate.

Reporting of a death and the actual date of the death is skewed therefore 3054 deaths were reported and did not actually occur in one day.

The CDC even tells you this on their own website:

195

So no. 3,000 did not die in one day. Its a L I E.
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
Here is the current IFR from the CDC:

197

IFR is the only way to know the true lethality of an outbreak.

So this is the data. There is no reason for anything to be closed with these stats.
Doesn't mean there shouldn't be precautions taken but shutting down everything over these stats is heinous.
Forcing people to wear a face diaper is heinous.
And potentially forcing people to vaccinate is just plain evil, given this data.
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
University of Florida researchers find no asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread

The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0.
 

CTZonEdit

Site Administrator
Staff member
The WHO has now stated that the vaccine is worthless.

Lockdowns were never going to end with a "vaccine" as predicted.

If people do not stop this madness it will never end.
 
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