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I have read the Old Testament 5 times from front to back and have studied these passages for over 20 years

there is absolutly nothing in the Old Testament that indicates a separation or distinction between the Father and Spirit to placate the ideoligy that this a presentation - as 2 distinct persons or partition of any Godhead

I would love to see a single Old Testament passage presented for showing a presentation of the Trinity Godhead

there is not a single passage in the Old Testament that mentions the Person of the Father and the Spirit together in the same verse

there is not a single passage in the Old Testament that mentions the EXPLANATION for the Spirit of God to be considered as being a distince separate person or identity.
 
“Even among adherents of the Nicene orthodoxy an uncertainty still for a time prevailed respecting the doctrine of the third person of the Holy Trinity. Some held the Spirit to be an impersonal power or attribute of God; others, at farthest, would not go beyond the expressions of the Scriptures. Gregory of Nazianzen, who, for his own part believed and taught the consubstantiality of the Holy Spirit with the Father and the Son, so late as 380 made the remarkable concession: ‘Of the wise among us, some consider the Holy Ghost an influence, others a creature, others God himself, and again others know not which way to decide, from reverence, as they say, for the Holy Scripture, which declares nothing exact in the case. For this reason they waver between worshipping and not worshipping the Holy Ghost, and strike a middle course, which is in fact, a bad one.’”

(Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, §128. The Doctrine of the Holy Spirit)


In AD 380 the Church was still unsettled on the question of who or what the Holy Spirit is. It is with the Council of Constantinople in AD 381 that the matter was finally reolved.

It took the Church approximately 350 years after the death / resurrection of the Messiah to come to this decision.
 
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