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  1. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    ...and that concludes this discussion. You are nearly combative with every response. Re-read that last sentence. I take ownership of how do it. That was was not an expectation for you. As for my comment on the unreadable post... never mind. I had thought maybe you had moved beyond the...
  2. JAY

    the Tension for Christians Surrounding Homosexuality

    I don't just use those two translations. I use many. The NIV and KJV are two that I keep on my bed stand. I actually have a trip I am planning to spend some time in the Duke Divinity School Library to research this very topic. I am not content to accept what ever cake mix of faith around this...
  3. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    I believe the proper biblical statement is we cannot serve both God and mammon (Mat 6, Luke 16). But again, these statements of biblical interpretation with no reference or scholarly support so I can't be sure.
  4. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    Simply put... this last post of yours CI, is nearly impossible to read. Again, I don't have the luxury of time to dissect this and make sure which is your statement and which is mine from that. Lastly, you keep saying the bible says but all I keep seeing is you say. Scriptural reference please...
  5. JAY

    the Tension for Christians Surrounding Homosexuality

    You say it is not possible. Please support that with biblical reference. You say this. Again, I need to see biblical support. Let's see how Christ handles it. It looks like we almost agreed on something here! I've been studying for 35. Been down some very dark roads in the process so I have...
  6. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    So what do you think he is saying about this issue? To quote a friend of mine "Years ago I was very certain of my beliefs on the subject but the more I dig into it I realize I can not be as dogmatic as I once was." In the other thread I was asked to start, I've opened the conversation with the...
  7. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    Merging the two is selective interpretation and not in context with my post. The first part is true and was not made in reference exclusively to the Isrealites – typical homosexual relationships involved older boys and young men. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality) In modern...
  8. JAY

    the Tension for Christians Surrounding Homosexuality

    I am going to start with this... The greatest commandments from Christ himself. Love God and love each other. Why does that love have to be conditional? Matthew 22:34-40 NRSV 34 When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together, 35 and one of them, a lawyer...
  9. JAY

    the Tension for Christians Surrounding Homosexuality

    Yes. There is a tension, as my post elsewhere in this forum has clearly demonstrated. I am a Disciple of Christ and I have family, friends, co-workers and fellow believers who are members of the LBGT community. I suspect other believers reading this post do as well. While I am not a moderator of...
  10. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    Okay. Let's reign this in because I obviously touched on something sensitive to you. Your responses are fragmented to a point where I would literally have to spend hours I do not have answering to you and risk losing the whole point of what I said, which in summary is this - I am a Christian man...
  11. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    Wow... your view of Christ is very dark indeed. It's not the one I see in scripture. Rather than fragment this further, I will take you up on the starting of another thread tomorrow. For now, I will leave with this food for thought...
  12. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    Before I split off into another thread, I wish to know what I have said that is in direct contradiction with the bible?
  13. JAY

    Where are We?

    I think he's an anti-colonial Islamic sympathizer with a poor understanding of the long term effects of trying to implement socialism in an established republic. I tried to vote him out but the machine that finances him was efficient enough at splitting the votes that he was granted a contract...
  14. JAY

    xhacker: Homosexuality

    In my experience and understanding, the problem we keep running into as followers of Christ is that we aren't actually following his example. Time and again the Pharisees attempted to trap him into exposing himself as a law breaker. Every time, he drilled to the basics of the law. Mark 12:28-34...
  15. JAY

    The Lord Told Me

    I have heard it several times over the course of my life. Typically in direct relation with someone who has an agenda. 1John 4:1 (GW) Dear friends, don’t believe all people who say that they have the Spirit. Instead, test them. See whether the spirit they have is from God, because there are...
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