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The Sword

Willy

Pro Poster
You study it's intricacies and debate why this was used here, ... that used there.

You conclude the sword uniquely amazing, perfectly balanced, and wonder who wielded it, …

You hear a crackle of energy run along the blade and God says, “The sword is perfect” ... “it's made for you to wield” ... “take it into battle” … “use it to kill” ... “raise the dead” …

1 Corinthians 13:10

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
 
we can use the sword to die in the flesh - for sure. not literally a real sword but the word of God is a sword used to destroy sin in our lives

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
 
You study it's intricacies and debate why this was used here, ... that used there.

You conclude the sword uniquely amazing, perfectly balanced, and wonder who wielded it, …

You hear a crackle of energy run along the blade and God says, “The sword is perfect” ... “it's made for you to wield” ... “take it into battle” … “use it to kill” ... “raise the dead” …

1 Corinthians 13:10

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
First, the 1 Corinthians 13:10 has no reference to any sword in the context.

Second, the second reference is in a context of commands for us to enter God's rest for our eternal benefit (verses 6, 9, 11, 14, 16) by resting in God's powerful presence all the time (verse 16). Thus, God uses the "sword" on those who seek God to enable them to be true to the Lord and to grow in their commitment to him.

Third, the "sword" in 1 Ephesians 6:17 stands for the Word of God, which we are to use to defeat the evil forces, who are attacking us, not people ("flesh and blood"--verses 11 and 12).
 
You study it's intricacies and debate why this was used here, ... that used there.

You conclude the sword uniquely amazing, perfectly balanced, and wonder who wielded it, …

You hear a crackle of energy run along the blade and God says, “The sword is perfect” ... “it's made for you to wield” ... “take it into battle” … “use it to kill” ... “raise the dead” …

1 Corinthians 13:10

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
 
Also, remember that the two swords that Peter took along to the Garden of Gethsemane, one of which he rashly used to cut off the ear of the servant Malchus, brought Jesus' response that those who live by the sword will die by the sword, as he healed that man's ear.
 
You study it's intricacies and debate why this was used here, ... that used there.

You conclude the sword uniquely amazing, perfectly balanced, and wonder who wielded it, …

You hear a crackle of energy run along the blade and God says, “The sword is perfect” ... “it's made for you to wield” ... “take it into battle” … “use it to kill” ... “raise the dead” …

1 Corinthians 13:10

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
First, the 1 Corinthians 13:10 has no reference to any sword in the context.

Second, the second reference is in a context of commands for us to enter God's rest for our eternal benefit (verses 6, 9, 11, 14, 16) by resting in God's powerful presence all the time (verse 16). Thus, God uses the "sword" on those who seek God to enable them to be true to the Lord and to grow in their commitment to him.

Third, the "sword" in 1 Ephesians 6:17 stands for the Word of God, which we are to use to defeat the evil forces, who are attacking us, not people ("flesh and blood"--verses 11 and 12).

Paul had new stuff … prophesies … there was no cannon of scripture.

There were signs and gifts given to support the NEW material.

Paul said, “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part”. (1 Cor. 13:9)

They saw “through a glass darkly”

Today with the cannon, “But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away”. 1Cor 13:10

Today we have the complete testimony of Scripture, including Paul's prophesies, sent to the Gentiles, in a book. (no need for signs and gifts) …

Today anyone can read it, or be taught from it, and at God's pleasure, meet Him face to Face on the Cross.

You die because you see God and you are made alive because He is there in your place bearing your sin …

Amazing Grace …!!

:tiphat:
 
You study it's intricacies and debate why this was used here, ... that used there.

You conclude the sword uniquely amazing, perfectly balanced, and wonder who wielded it, …

You hear a crackle of energy run along the blade and God says, “The sword is perfect” ... “it's made for you to wield” ... “take it into battle” … “use it to kill” ... “raise the dead” …

1 Corinthians 13:10

But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
First, the 1 Corinthians 13:10 has no reference to any sword in the context.

Second, the second reference is in a context of commands for us to enter God's rest for our eternal benefit (verses 6, 9, 11, 14, 16) by resting in God's powerful presence all the time (verse 16). Thus, God uses the "sword" on those who seek God to enable them to be true to the Lord and to grow in their commitment to him.

Third, the "sword" in 1 Ephesians 6:17 stands for the Word of God, which we are to use to defeat the evil forces, who are attacking us, not people ("flesh and blood"--verses 11 and 12).

Paul had new stuff … prophesies … there was no cannon of scripture.

There were signs and gifts given to support the NEW material.

Paul said, “For we know in part, and we prophesy in part”. (1 Cor. 13:9)

They saw “through a glass darkly”

Today with the cannon, “But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away”. 1Cor 13:10

Today we have the complete testimony of Scripture, including Paul's prophesies, sent to the Gentiles, in a book. (no need for signs and gifts) …

Today anyone can read it, or be taught from it, and at God's pleasure, meet Him face to Face on the Cross.

You die because you see God and you are made alive because He is there in your place bearing your sin …

Amazing Grace …!!

:tiphat:
I submit that you misinterpret 1 Corinthians 13:10. In the first part of the verse and in the context, Paul is talking about the time when we will be made perfect, Jesus' second coming, which still hasn't happened yet. We will be perfect then, and prophecy and knowledge will pass away, but love will continue. It isn't the present, because we still "see through a glass darkly" with all the mysteries of prophecies and our knowledge. In fact, I think that many of us will be surprised at the order and timing of events at Jesus' second coming, for example.
 
the rapture is not the second coming. they bookend the trib.
Because of what I have already shared here, though I've been on all sides of this issue, I believe that Jesus' second coming will be one event that will include his descending from heaven with the believing souls, our rising to meet him in the air, his burning off this old earth and heavens, his replacing them with the new earth and heavens, the resurrection of all people, their bowing before Jesus with most of them bowing reluctantly, the final Judgment, and his ushering us believers into the new earth in our perfect, resurrection bodies to live with and under his rule forever. The "rapture" of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 will be our welcoming Jesus back to the new earth, as Revelation 21 and 22 describe in symbolic form.
 
1) There is not even a hint about the rapture in 1 Corinthians 15.
2) The one who restrains the man of lawlessness is probably the Holy Spirit, but the timing is vague beyond that.
3) Since the Book of Revelation is symbolic, the two beasts might be the worldwide religious and political systems that come under Satan's influences, not the Antichrist.
4) Revelation 6 and 7 form a single vision beginning with the plagues and ending with the Old and New Testament people of God's condition in their final state (chapter 7).
Chapters 8-11 are another symbolic vision that goes from plagues that are experienced in the present like chapter 6 and continuing through the preaching of the Good News to the time of punishment with God's judgment (11:18-19).
Chapter 12 is acknowledged by most commentators as a new beginning because it describes the woman, probably the Old Testament people of God in Mary, giving birth to Jesus, who ascends to heaven with all the other events assumed, and the dragon, which is Satan. It's also important because it explains much of its symbolism, a clue to the whole book's character as symbolic.
This new symbolic vision about this present age, which I interpret as the time between Jesus' first and second comings, goes to the end of chapter 14, which again describes in symbolic form the end-time harvest at the end of that chapter.
Chapters 15-16 show the tragedies of the present age, again symbolically, leading up to their intensification until the time of the final judgment at Jesus' second coming.
Do you see the pattern, which is completed with chapters 16-19, which ends with a symbolic picture of Jesus' second coming when he arrives to rule, not to die.
Then, chapter 20 starts the same pattern over again one last time with Jesus' first coming with 1,000 years as a symbolic picture of the time between the two comings leading up to Jesus' final judgment, also pictured in Matthew 25, and the final arrival of the new Jerusalem, as the Old and New Testament people of God coming down out of heaven to the new earth. I would say that 1 Thessalonians 4;13-18 is a literal description of the believers who are left on the earth and the resurrected believers having their resurrected bodies rising to meet Jesus in the air and accompanying him back to the new earth to live with him forever, pictured in Revelation 21 and 22.
This interpretation is just as possible as yours, since it has the visions' patterns and the symbolic nature of the book like the apocalyptic literature of that time in mind. Of course, God inspired this book, not the other literature.
 
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