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Redefinition without representation

Discussion in 'General Talk' started by CTZonEdit, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. CTZonEdit

    CTZonEdit Site Administrator Staff Member

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    Here is what continued marriage redefinition without representation will look like in the very near future:



    Incest as a fundamental right:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-fundamental-right-German-committee-says.html



    Legalized polygamy:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...alize_polygamy_marriage_equality_for_all.html



    Babies with three homosexual parents:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/07/us-usa-florida-adoption-idUSBRE91618L20130207





    These are not just extreme talking points we bring to the table when we discuss why we should be supporting and protecting traditionally held marriage laws. This is going to be the new world order we live in if our elected officials and judges continue to dictate what marriage is going to be without engaging the American people that they are sworn to represent. We are being denied our rights as citizens to participate in a proper public referendum to make such cultural decisions.



    One man should not be determining the fate of how this nation or any state is supposed to recognize what marriage is. It’s a blatant abuse of executive power and of the legal system and it is discriminatory for those who are opposed to changing it.



    It is discriminatory to anyone opposed to redefinition since now by law thru judicial fiats we are required to support redefinition which completely disregards our rights as Americans to believe as we choose to believe and to make appropriate moral decisions based on our own personal faiths.



    In the past Americans have in good faith in their own states voted on what they wanted marriage to represent. That has somehow been stripped away from us all by one man. That should worry every single American.



    This is an abuse of power, its discriminatory, and it violates our rights as Americans.
     
  2. CoreIssue

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    A simple review of history and science shows all of the issues, when legal and accepted, have been a disaster and part of the decline and fall of nations and societies.

    The world is failing, not a doubt to it.
     
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  3. Jessie

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    time is short. I wonder if time is shorter than we think. :hmm:
     
  4. CTZonEdit

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    Just take a look at any country overseas with SSM laws in place today.

    They are increasingly secular and religious believers and their rights are being pushed to the margins.
    Religion and religious thought are irrelevant in societys.

    New Zealand for example is by majority secular. So here we have a clear example of what a secular democratic society looks like.
    Legalized same sex marriage.
    Legalized marijuana.
    Legalized synthetic narcotics.
    Legalized prostitition.

    It will happen. Once SSM is made legal then the door is not only wide open but removed from its hinges never to be replaced.
     
  5. CTZonEdit

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    http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2011/01/2316/

     
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  10. CTZonEdit

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    I still do not understand how this even got as far as it has. Its like people have lost their sense of rationality and morality when it comes to this.

    Legal precedence is taking place here without foundation and its just being pushed through because of what exactly?

    If the supreme court does nothing or just completely loses all sense of moral reality and gives in to social pressures from a zealous minority and makes SSM a 'right' then it redefines marriage completely then its over. There is no way to redefine marriage without completely destroying the entire institution.

    If anyone can legally marry anyone they "love" then its over.

    Legalizing SSM makes the entire process a ward of the state basically. People just don't realize this.
    Everything that comes naturally to a heterosexual couple is completely foreign to a same-sex couple.
    Shouldn't that throw red flags on the whole institution?
     
  11. CoreIssue

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    I agree. Love and lust are becoming interchangeable terms.
     
  12. CTZonEdit

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    Neither of which are "rights" to begin with.
    The constitution does not apply to groups of people (ie. couples). It applies to individuals and their rights as individuals NOT to the rights of "a couple".

    It's outrageous.

    Homosexuals AS INDIVIDUALS have the SAME rights in regards to existing marriage law AND ALWAYS HAVE just like EVERYONE ELSE. There is no discrimination taking place despite what they erroneously profess.

    The government does not care about who you "love" since love is not a prerequisite for marriage.
     
  13. CoreIssue

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    Excellent and right on the mark points.
     
  14. CTZonEdit

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    Do you believe this issue regarding marriage is the greatest deception that is talked about in the End Times?

    I cant believe how many people do not understand that there is no way to make these completely different unions equal in any way without destroying the institution completely.
     
  15. CoreIssue

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    There are a list of huge deceptions. It definitely is one of the top ones.

    At least 3 Appellate Courts have sided with States who had their anti-gay marriage laws overturned, saying they can ban them.
     

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