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Homosexual Christians

Discussion in 'General Talk' started by CTZonEdit, Mar 18, 2015.

  1. CTZonEdit

    CTZonEdit Site Administrator Staff Member

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    In going back over this I find it very interesting that the bible does not condemn homosexuals it condemns homosexual behavior.
    It condemns the practicing of the homosexual activity itself. Regardless of how we may "feel" or their "desires".
    The activity itself is what is condemned.

    And not just homosexual sex, but ALL sexual activity outside the confines of marriage. All of it.
     
  2. CoreIssue

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    Agree, CTZ.

    It is a sin that becomes deadly in practice. Desire is one thing, follow through is another.
     
  3. Blake Henry

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    If you own a bakery and are asked to bake a cake for a Homosexual wedding simply reply, "I can't. I don't want to offend Muslims".
     
  4. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Administrator Staff Member

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    Interesting spin on the answer.
     
  5. Blake Henry

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    Not all those that proclaim to be a Christian "blatantly" continue to sin. I've tried since becoming a Christian to never sin. I've failed. I don't sin blatantly but I do sin. I know of no Christian that has defeated sin in their lives. Many homosexuals love their sin. As do some proclaimed Christians. Others hate it. As I do. Before becoming a Christian I never knew I was sinning. Many homosexuals don't know as well. Homosexuals that accept Jesus as their Saviour will know that the sexual acts they perform are sin. Some dance around the issue of homosexuality but in their hearts they know that their sexual acts are sin.

    Some leaders in the Christian homosexual community claim that what they do is right and okay with God. So did another famous leader. "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator" [Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf p.60]. Even after proclaiming to be Christian they still will be homosexuals and sinners but before they commit their perverted acts they will know that they are "blatantly" getting ready to sin. The fight to keep from sinning will always be a fight for Christians and homosexuals that proclaim to be a Christian until Christ returns. At least some homosexuals have become Christian. Once they did (as with all of us that have become Christian) then hope is with us/them that they/we will truly be saved.

    We should not be surprised that this world is falling further and further away from God. It is a "disturbing trend". We should rejoice that it is. If we as Christians never see the events in this world becoming a "disturbing trend" then the Bible lied to us.What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong. We were told that it would get this way in the last days. We must rejoice and lift up our heads and get ready for His return. The events we were told about are happening today.

    “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when Son of man is revealed.” - Luke 17:26-30

    His grace will save all of us that come to Him. Be we homosexuals or not. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23
     
  6. CoreIssue

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    There are some sins that God says are so bad if a Christian cannot or will stop practicing and will not even admit it is sin, that God says the will die so that your spirit will be preserved.

    It says throw them out of your assembly.

    All sin is sin and spiritually deadly. But some sin, regard our flesh and person on this earth are more deadly than others.

    When born again, our spirits are cleansed, but not our flesh. So, it is very difficult for me to see such as a homosexual saying it is not a sin and actually being a Christian.
     
  7. Lucia Magdalena

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    Okay, I am embarrassed to ask, but I rather ask than wonder. I am a heterosexual. I am currently in a relationship and we are active. It's been ongoing for over 3 years. We are loyal to each other but we are not married. Is this wrong? Will we be condemned?
     
  8. CoreIssue

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    The Bible teaches we are to marry before God and Man.

    While the customs and legalities have changed drastically, and many time, throughout history, that aspect has not changed.

    The Bible also says, regarding your situation, when you marry all is fixed. No more issues.

    Marriage is more than personal. It impacts society, family etc. Especially children.
     
  9. Lucia Magdalena

    Lucia Magdalena New Member

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    So what I am doing is wrong?
     
  10. CoreIssue

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    No delicate way to put it...yes, but fixable.

    As Paul said about himself, we all do something wrong, everyday. Even when we try hard to everything right.
     
  11. Lucia Magdalena

    Lucia Magdalena New Member

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    I want to do right. What should I do?
     
  12. CoreIssue

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    Get married.
     
  13. CTZonEdit

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    Remember that there are sexual immoralities that God condemns. We are to flee from them 1 Corinthians 6:17-19.

    Sex outside the confines of marriage (fornication) is sexual immorality. Its sexual sin. Marriage fixes this.

    1 Corinthians 7:2-5.
     
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  14. CTZonEdit

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    Found this site today

    http://www.livingout.org/

    Looks like there is a way to deal with these issues in a biblical way that nobody is addressing in any other church I have seen.
     
  15. CoreIssue

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    I knew there were groups out there like this. But, the catch a lot of hassle from liberals.
     
  16. CTZonEdit

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    Well they certainly are not following the LGBT agenda or message.

    As with most things in life it is much harder to follow Christ than your own feelings or whats popular in society.

    To me this is courageous, not what Jenner is doing or promoting.
     
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  17. CTZonEdit

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    Absolutely heart broken by the turn of events over the past several weeks.

    How much longer Lord Jesus?
     
  18. CoreIssue

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    I know. Still cannot stand listening to the news.

    They will celebrate but the Lord is not.

    Sounds exactly like the Bible description of right before the Rapture and Trib.
     
  19. Jessie

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    I have heard from 2 people separate from each other that they believe the rapture could come as soon as sept.
    which we dont know and should always be ready

    just found it interesting of you saying
    "Sounds exactly like the Bible description of right before the Rapture and Trib."
     
  20. CTZonEdit

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    The worst part is that there is no debating it any more. They don't want to debate it and when you do its response is "it the LAW now." and when you press them they just get upset or don't want to discuss it any more since its "LAW".

    The arena for civil discussion of ideas is gone. Logic and reason. Gone. History and facts. Gone. Because it the LAW.

    So basically I am at a loss of what to do.
     

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