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2016 Presidential Race

Discussion in 'General Talk' started by CTZonEdit, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. CTZonEdit

    CTZonEdit Site Administrator Staff Member

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    I'll start this off since I believe that if we as a society we don't have a legitimate conservative voice in the White House next term then we are going to see the very things America was founded on completely destroyed as well as the outright persecution of biblical Christians and biblical Christianity.

    I know that I don't know all the candidates as of yet, there are certainly more to come but here is the place to post what they really believe, their views about what America is and how it is to move forward.

    This isn't a place about attacking or bashing people. Its about refuting their ideas and viewpoints.
     
  2. CoreIssue

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    Rand Paul has declared. By Libertarians own definition, Fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I cannot support him.

    His thinking is just not equipped for dealing with immigration, drug problems and foreign affairs.

    Scott Walker has a lot of strengths and does stand up for people. But, he is weak on immigration and still unknown on a lot of other issues. Probably would make a good president.

    Jeb Bush is far too liberal for me. Totally against his immigration thinking and stance on Common Core, in example.

    Ted Cruz is forthright, no nonsense and sometimes abrasive. But, he is where I want the next President to be.

    Marco Rubio. I have more questions than answers.

    I do not think any of the others are really in the race on the Republican side.

    Hillary Clinton. A total non starter for me. Liberal and more Liberal. But not Elizabeth Warren liberal.

    Right now, my ranking is:
    1. Ted Cruz
    2. Scott Walker
    3. Marco Rubio
     
  3. Willy

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    Hillary is ahead of everybody by at least 10 points.
     
  4. CoreIssue

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    And she was even farther ahead in 2008, but lost the nomination to Obama.

    She is starting to sink fast in the polls. In the last one she lost by 1% to Rand Paul.
     
  5. CTZonEdit

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    Now we have Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina announcing.
     
  6. CoreIssue

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    They cannot win. Maybe maneuverer for a government spot?

    Carson heading the Dept. of Health could be a good move.
     
  7. CTZonEdit

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    Today Mike Huckabee announced.
     
  8. CoreIssue

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    Cheaper by the dozen.
     
  9. Blake Henry

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    Millions of Americans don't work or pay taxes. Food, housing, and medical treatment is free for them and most have been told that those that have worked for what they have earned are greedy and need to share with those that have nothing. Anyone running for president that tells these millions that they'll keep on getting free things will win the election for president. Hillary has promised to give even more 'free' things to those millions of people. Hillary will be the next president.
     
  10. CoreIssue

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    I understand your comment, Blake. But I also understand a lot of people are fed up, hurting more than ever and dumping the Democratic Party.

    Not saying I can tell you who will win. But I can say Hilary is far from a shoe in.
     
  11. Blake Henry

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    I hope you're right CoreIssue...here it comes...BUT. The Democratic Party has failed the people that were made the promise of a better life. Yet those same people that have been sold a false set of goods still vote Democrat time after time. Example: It was Democrats that were against the right for blacks to vote. Yet blacks have and always will vote Democrat. Some members of the Democratic Party were members of the KKK at the time and still were years later. It made no difference to blacks. Democrats to this day pit blacks against whites and rich against poor and it has worked well for them. Republicans offer, "We'll get you more jobs and fair pay" while the Democrats offer, "Stay in the bed and we'll feed and house you for life". This promise has never worked but it has made and will make the Democrats king of the hill for years to come even though it has always been a lie.

    I've seen many leaders come and go in the White House over my years and all have made promises they never kept. I believe in my heart that The Lord is showing us that no matter whoever becomes president they will always fail. Corruption, lies and a false promise can always win anyone a trip to Washington. Hillary is the 'queen bee' that has tons of practice. For years Hillary and Sweet Willy awoke every morning to ask each other, "How can we fool them today?" and they found that it works. Soon Hillary will have a new house, the 'White House', and Sweet Willy will be back in the 'Oval Orafice' having young interns sitting on his lap taking DICtation while he readies another cigar. Christians can only hope that the rapture comes quickly so we can all watch in safty as this world marches toward total destruction after which Jesus Christ will return to rule forever and lies, death, sickness, and false leaders will be no more.
     
  12. CoreIssue

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    I cannot argue with any of your points.I was born under Truman.

    While I cannot say who the next president will be, I can state if Elizabeth Warren declared, she would be the Democratic nominee.

    The Republican Party is a joke because of the Rhinos.

    There are now about 42% Independents. But, what does that mean?

    Yep, the time for the Rapture is any time now.
     
  13. Blake Henry

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    I hope to see you CoreIssue at the Rapture. But I may not make it. I have this burning desire to place at least two liberals at room temperature before I die. I'll do it "just to save the children" as well as to help prevent "Global Warming". Pray for me that a 'liberal' never comes on my porch and then I may make it with you at the Rapture. I'll close by saying...wait a second...I have to lock and load...someone is knocking on my door.
     
  14. CoreIssue

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    Sometimes it does feel hopeless.

    Unfortunately for far too many it actually is.
     
  15. Blake Henry

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    My great uncle was an Independent. He lived in Hazard, KY during the civil war. He wasn't for or against the south or the north. He wore a gray shirt and blue pants to appease both combatants. One day while plowing his field Yankee troops came walking out of the woods toward him. On the other side of his field came Rebel troops. Both sides were ready for a fight. He knew that wearing a gray shirt and blue pants would show them that he was an Indenpendent. He waved at both the Yankees and Rebels and continued plowing. He was quickly shot dead by both sides.

    Sometimes it's best that we take sides. If I were one of those 42% Independents I would be worried about what God told us:

    "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." Rev 3:16
     
  16. CoreIssue

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    Hazard, huh? My family is from that area.One of the first in settler families into KY.

    KY was a border state. Back in the hollows they really didn't care about sides.

    Well, as for being shot, I don't think either side understood his message. I never heard of that before.

    Everyone takes sides. There are no actual sideless positions. You are either for one, the other or for a third.

    I am an Independent. It does not mean I am neutral. I have voted for 40 years. More often Republican, while holding my nose.

    I am also a Vet and been active in government.

    Very complicated when it comes to politics.
     
  17. CoreIssue

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    Well, now there are three Democratic candidates. They are all competing to see how far left they can move.

    A Socialist (really, he is a Socialist), a former Mayor of Baltimore and governor of the very liberal state of Maryland and Hillary Clinton (need I say more?).

    And the Republican head count is growing. A real mix of good to terrible.
     
  18. CTZonEdit

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    So the current liberal frontrunner is a staunch socialist.

    How is that working out for Greece? And we want that here?

    Over the past 7 years I feel like I have been living in some alternate universe and people more of this?
     
  19. CoreIssue

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    It is spiraling down quickly.

    I do believe it is fully in keeping with the Falling Away. Everyone for themselves and no rules.
     
  20. CoreIssue

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    Polls are interesting animals.

    Real Clear Politics covers all the major ones. Good place to see what the movement is and where everyone stands from different polling biases.

    What is not covered well, which should be is the negative polling, as who will not be voted for, every.

    In example, at this moment, Trump is ahead. before it was Bush.

    But, looking at the negatives, both these men are in deep trouble.

    Simple reality is, those there thinking appeals to pool their support quickly. The remainder of the field scatters to rest of the voters.

    When the field starts to thin the supporters of the departing candidates will have to go elsewhere. For the most part they are not going to go to Bush or Trump.

    So, it will be interesting to watch over time.
     

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