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Post deleted for violation of Category Rules. The State a belief the Bible is infallible and inerrant. As well Eternity in the Lake of Fire for the lost. Ruth believes neither. CoreIssue Administrator All posting now requires moderator review and approval.

That is not a fair statement. I have shown that I am more than willing to discuss with someone who disagrees with me. That is what discussion is all about. I love a good debate. But it has to be equally respectful or it is just intimidation and bullying if one side is in a position of power...

Thank you. I do think that we all owe it to our Lord and Savior to examine the views we hold that frame His character to the lost. I cannot think of any doctrine taught by the body of Christ that has a greater influence in drawing folks closer or having them slam the door on the primary message...

I hate to say this but you are a little biased. I think it is wrong of someone to blow past what someone has presented and never commenting on any validity to what I have said and then they claim to have presented the final word/retort and then claiming that unless I refute what they think is...

One last thing - since you think being made in God's image means that makes us eternal then I guess you also think that we are all omniscient and omnipresent and omnipotent too. Now I'm done.

Have you watched the video I originally posted? I'm guessing no since you don't mention anything in it. Have you answered any of my questions such as is Jesus suffering eternal torment on our behalf - which all of my questions were before your attempt to divert from the proof I have provided...

So in other words, you have no answer to a direct question and the clear scripture I posted that is NOT out of context and you know it. I am NOT all over the place. I have been consistent on this issue. For your belief system to be valid, you have to discount Gen 3, the Tree of Life, and that...

I also notice that you didn't answer several of my questions from my post. Is Jesus suffering eternal torment in our place? Trying to frame this around your belief system that humans are eternal beings and will be eternally tormented if they are not redeemed is to deny: The Tree of Life...

Then why did God say this? Gen 3 1 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and...

The message of God, contained within the Bible, is so simply that every child can understand it. Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.” God holds all accountable Romans 1 20 For since the...

I have no idea what you are talking about. Where in the world do you get that from what I said? Per my belief system? I quoted scripture. I believe we are born with a sin nature. Those who never reach an age where they rebel against God (sin) or the intellect to make the conscious...

Genesis 3 21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the...

I wanted to add a clarification on one issue that keeps popping up on this - I am in no way involved or condone or believe in SDA teachings. The fact that they reject eternal torment is simply the wedge that took Edward Fudge on his journey to take the issue on. Rejecting eternal torment...

The message of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is a love story between God and His creation. Adam and Eve were given the choice to love and trust self or love and trust God. They chose self. This created a break in the relationship and out of God's love for them, He barred them from the...

Where in the world do you think I say that? You completely misunderstood or misread what I said. Please go back and re-read it. There is no point in my responding to this erroneous answer. Again - I NEVER said that. I am saying the punishment is NOT eternal. We do not have eternal life until...

We are told that God never changes. I was as you are - trying to defend the indefensible that makes no sense. Even your heart tells you that you are defending something with human 'logic' but is not true. There are no errors in God's word. His Word is perfect and spoken to our hearts...

Deut 20 10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When...

You completely misunderstand what I am saying. You are assuming that HEARING God's word must come from men. God is the one who speaks it to their hearts. In the end, scripture tells us the Angels deliver the gospel to the whole world: Revelation 14:6 [ The Three Angels ] Then I saw another...

I agree with you that far too many want to excuse away or minimize the sins of men and women that mock God's clear word. I would like to also add that in the zeal of pointing out the seriousness of the sins of others, we too become guilty of a sin that breaks our Lord's heart - leaving love on...

Regarding the idea that humans have eternal souls but it is just a matter of where we spend eternity, I believe that is actually what Satan tried to sell Eve. He said that she would not REALLY die. In reality, we are born with a sin nature and once we reach the age of accountability, we all sin...