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This post was made in the Christians Only Category, so I moved it here as a thread starter.
CTZ - could I quantify your argument; essentially you seem to be saying because gay couples cannot propagate, this is why you are against gay marriage.
My points:
1) There is nothing in marriage that says you have to have children.
2) Plenty of straight marriages do not end up having children for a number of different reasons - are you saying these are not real marriages?
3) You do not have to be married to have children anyway.
4) Gay couples can adopt, thereby completing your criteria.
5) Lesbians can propagate biologically, in fact both parents can propagate - does this mean under your criteria they are better than straight parents?
I'm really struggling with how to respond to homosexuals and those the believe the homosexual agenda is a legitimate fight for human rights.
Marriage is not a right. Its a privilege afforded to those that qualify by the states they live in. Those that qualify the state has a vested interest in since marriage produces children that are innocent and need to be most protected.
Gay marriage by natural law can not produce children. So what interest does the state have to recognize these unions in making them as equal as a traditional marriage? The reality is that a gay marriage would never be able to provide what a traditional marriage can.
The state cares about providing the best possible environment for a child to grow and develop in.
Every study about parenting reveals that the best environment for a child to grow in is one that involves traditional parenting in a traditional household.
Also there is no existing law saying that gays cannot marry. They just cant marry who they want...but neither can straight people.
So where is the inequality?
The existing laws are applied equally to every one whether you are gay or straight, black, white or what have you as long as you marry someone of the opposite sex.
Love has nothing to do with marriage as far as the state is concerned. There is no "love test" you are required to pass before you can get a marriage license and the state does not care about whether you love one another.
So claims about not being able to marry whoever you choose love is not an issue the state cares about. Straight people cannot marry whoever they choose to love either. Again equal laws apply regardless of sexual orientation.
So in this post I have not said anything about religion, or God in regards to homosexuality and have clearly stated a logical and thought out opposition to gay marriage. What about what I said above is bigoted or intolerant?
CTZ - could I quantify your argument; essentially you seem to be saying because gay couples cannot propagate, this is why you are against gay marriage.
My points:
1) There is nothing in marriage that says you have to have children.
2) Plenty of straight marriages do not end up having children for a number of different reasons - are you saying these are not real marriages?
3) You do not have to be married to have children anyway.
4) Gay couples can adopt, thereby completing your criteria.
5) Lesbians can propagate biologically, in fact both parents can propagate - does this mean under your criteria they are better than straight parents?
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